Speaker 1: 0:01

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Speaker 2: 0:26

Did you know that over 24 million Americans are navigating a reality where their own body, in a really profound misdirection, turns against itself? It's a phenomenon that's both remarkable and, well frankly, quite unsettling. Our immune system, the very defense mechanism designed to protect us, mistakenly identifies healthy cells and tissues as threats.

Speaker 3: 0:52

Right, the protectors become the packers, essentially.

Speaker 2: 0:54

Exactly, and what's concerning is that the rates of these autoimmune conditions they've been steadily climbing over the past few decades.

Speaker 3: 1:00

Yeah, that's a definite trend.

Speaker 2: 1:02

And it often makes early diagnosis a real challenge because the symptoms can be incredibly subtle, you know. They develop so gradually, they're easily dismissed. So our mission in this deep dive is really to unravel this kind of silent epidemic. We're going to investigate what these complex conditions truly are, why they emerge, how you can spot those critical early warning signs and the powerful role that early to your e-detection and personalized management play. It's really about empowering you with knowledge. Okay, let's unpack this.

Speaker 3: 1:32

Yeah, and what's truly fascinating here and often, you know, quite frustrating for people going through it is how our incredibly sophisticated immune system I mean this system is designed with such precision to distinguish self from non-self.

Speaker 2: 1:45

Right, its whole job.

Speaker 3: 1:46

Its entire job, and yet it can lose its way. And when it does, it sets off this cascade of chronic inflammation.

Speaker 2: 1:53

Inflammation again.

Speaker 3: 1:55

Always, and that can lead to significant, sometimes irreversible, organ damage. It's like a highly trained internal security team suddenly misidentifying the homeowner as the primary threat.

Speaker 2: 2:07

That's a great analogy.

Speaker 3: 2:08

And this misdirection. That's precisely why early detection is just so critical. Identifying this abnormal immune activity before substantial tissue damage occurs can dramatically improve outcomes. It can slow disease progression, really change the trajectory of someone's health.

Speaker 2: 2:23

OK, so we've set the stage, this idea of the body turning on itself. But like? What does that actually look like on a cellular level? What specifically breaks down? How does that misidentification happen in stick?

Speaker 3: 2:34

Yeah, that's the core question At its heart. An autoimmune disease is when immune cells the ones meant to scout for invaders like bacteria or viruses they misinterpret your own healthy tissues as foreign threats. Your body then produces something called autoantibodies.

Speaker 2: 2:52

Autoantibodies Okay.

Speaker 3: 2:53

Think of them as misguided missiles. Instead of targeting a virus, they attack your own proteins.

Speaker 2: 3:00

Wow.

Speaker 3: 3:01

And this leads to a relentless state of chronic inflammation. It's not a quick battle. It's a sustained internal conflict that gradually damages tissues and organs over time. It's a fundamental flaw in the immune system's recognition process.

Speaker 2: 3:14

really helpful to categorize these conditions. What are the main battlefields, so to speak?

Speaker 3: 3:25

Exactly Good way to put it. We generally see two main categories. First, you have systemic autoimmune diseases.

Speaker 2: 3:31

Systemic meaning widespread.

Speaker 3: 3:32

Precisely, these are the conditions where the immune system attacks multiple organs and tissues throughout the entire body. Think of them as, yeah, widespread internal conflicts. Example, classic examples are lupus or SLE systemic lupus erythematosus that can affect skin joints, kidneys, heart, brain, lots of things Right. Then there's rheumatoid arthritis, which mainly targets joint linings but can definitely impact other organs too, and Sjogren's syndrome, which affects moisture producing glands like tear ducts and salivary glands.

Speaker 3: 4:06

And the challenge with those is the challenge with systemic conditions is they're diverse and often really vague symptoms. They can look like so many other things, which makes them particularly difficult to pin down, especially early on.

Speaker 2: 4:17

Makes sense. What's the other category?

Speaker 3: 4:19

The other main group is organ-specific autoimmune diseases, as the name suggests. These are much more focused. The attack is localized to a single organ or maybe a specific tissue type.

Speaker 2: 4:29

Oh, okay, like what.

Speaker 3: 4:31

For instance, hashimoto's thyroiditis specifically attacks the thyroid gland. Type 1 diabetes zeros in on the insulin-producing beta cells in the pancreas, and celiac disease primarily focuses its attack on the small intestine, but only when gluten is consumed.

Speaker 2: 4:45

So more targeted attacks? Does that make them easier to diagnose?

Speaker 3: 4:48

You'd think so, but not always. The difficulty, even with these more targeted conditions, is that their early symptoms can still mimic other common ailments Fatigue, weight changes, things that are easy to brush off. So you still get frequent underdiagnosis or misdiagnosis. And this is where you know advanced lab testing becomes absolutely indispensable, looking for those specific autoantibodies. That's how we detect the abnormal immune activity before irreversible damage really sets in.

Speaker 2: 5:18

Okay, now that we understand the broad category systemic versus organ specific Okay, I'm really curious about how these definitions play out in the conditions people hear about most often. Can we walk through a few common examples? This is where it gets really interesting, I think.

Speaker 3: 5:33

Absolutely. Let's dive in some of the most prevalent ones. First up, Hashimoto's thyroiditis.

Speaker 2: 5:38

Okay, hashimoto's Heard of that one.

Speaker 3: 5:40

Yeah, it's the most common cause of hypothyroidism, an underactive thyroid. Basically, the immune system attacks the thyroid gland, which hinders its ability to produce essential hormones.

Speaker 2: 5:49

And the symptoms are.

Speaker 3: 5:50

Well, what's often overlooked is how subtly it can start Persistent fatigue like bone-tired fatigue, unexplained weight gain, feeling cold all the time, that sort of pervasive brain fog.

Speaker 2: 6:01

Oh brain fog, yeah Right.

Speaker 3: 6:03

Things often dismissed as just stress or aging for years. Sometimes it really highlights that silent progression.

Speaker 2: 6:09

So what tests confirm it's Hashimoto's?

Speaker 3: 6:12

Key lab tests here go beyond just the standard TSH and free T4 thyroid tests. We specifically look for thyroid peroxidase antibodies or TPOAB. Those are the direct markers showing the immune system is attacking the thyroid.

Speaker 2: 6:26

Got it, tpoab. Okay, what's next?

Speaker 3: 6:28

Then there's rheumatoid arthritis, or RA, known for affecting the lining of the joints right, leading to swelling pain, sometimes deformity.

Speaker 2: 6:36

Joint pain is the main thing people think of.

Speaker 3: 6:38

It is, but it's actually a systemic condition. It can also impact organs like the heart and lungs over time. A crucial distinction here is the type of joint pain often persistent, symmetrical, meaning same joints on both sides of the body, and that stiffness especially bad in the mornings.

Speaker 2: 6:53

Morning stiffness okay.

Speaker 3: 6:54

Yeah, that's a classic sign For labs. Besides general inflammatory markers like ESR and CRP, we look for rheumatoid factor, rf and, really importantly, anti-ccp antibodies. Anti-ccp is highly specific for RA and can even help predict how severe the disease might become.

Speaker 2: 7:12

Anti-CCP. Good to know what about lupus? You mentioned that earlier.

Speaker 3: 7:21

Right. Systemic lupus erythematosus, or SLE. It truly lives up to its systemic name. It's kind of notorious for affecting multiple organs skin joints, kidneys, heart, lungs, even the brain.

Speaker 2: 7:27

So it's really varied.

Speaker 3: 7:29

Incredibly varied. Its symptoms range from joint pain and distinctive skin rashes, like that facial butterfly rash you sometimes see pictures of.

Speaker 2: 7:37

Oh yeah, I've seen that.

Speaker 3: 7:37

To extreme fatigue, sun sensitivity. That's why they call it the great imitator. It can look like so many things.

Speaker 2: 7:43

So diagnosis must be complex.

Speaker 3: 7:45

It often requires a broad approach. Usually starts with an ANA panel, which is a general screen for systemic autoimmune issues. Then doctors look for more specific markers like anti-DSDNA antibodies and monitor things called complement levels, which show how active the immune system is.

Speaker 2: 8:00

OK. What about diabetes? Is that always autoimmune?

Speaker 3: 8:03

Good question. Not always, but type 1 diabetes is autoimmune.

Speaker 2: 8:08

In type 1, the immune system launches a very targeted assault on the pancreas, specifically, it destroys the beta cells that produce insulin, so it's not like type 2, which is more about insulin resistance.

Speaker 3: 8:19

Exactly. This isn't about resistance. It's an absolute lack of insulin because the factory is destroyed. This leads to dangerously high blood glucose levels.

Speaker 2: 8:27

And symptoms are usually quite obvious.

Speaker 3: 8:29

Often, yes, they can develop pretty rapidly. Excessive thirst, frequent urination, unexplained weight loss those are the classic signs. Beyond blood sugar tests like fasting, glucose and HbA1c, key diagnostic tools include checking for specific autoantibodies, like GAD antibodies, which confirm that autoimmune destruction is happening.

Speaker 2: 8:48

GAD antibodies. Okay, how about celiac disease? Is that just a gluten allergy?

Speaker 3: 8:53

Common misconception. Celiac disease isn't an allergy. It's an autoimmune reaction to gluten that protein in wheat, barley and rye. When someone with celiac eats gluten, their immune system attacks the lining of the small intestine.

Speaker 2: 9:06

Causing digestive issues.

Speaker 3: 9:08

Yes, but it's much more than that. That damage impairs nutrient absorption. So while many people get chronic bloating or other digestive changes, they can also have nutrient deficiencies, weird skin rashes, fatigue, even neurological symptoms. It's really a systemic immune response triggered in the gut.

Speaker 2: 9:26

So testing is key there too.

Speaker 3: 9:28

Absolutely. We test for specific antibodies like TTG-IGA, total, iga, to make sure the first test is reliable and deamidated gliadin antibodies.

Speaker 2: 9:37

Okay, one more Multiple sclerosis MS grid. What's happening there?

Speaker 3: 9:41

So in multiple sclerosis or MS, the immune system attacks the myelin sheath, that's the protective insulation around nerve fibers in the brain and spinal cord.

Speaker 2: 9:50

Like the coating on a wire.

Speaker 3: 9:52

Exactly like that. This damage disrupts the communication signals between the brain and the rest of the body.

Speaker 2: 9:57

And the symptoms depend on where the damage is.

Speaker 3: 9:59

Precisely. That's why MS symptoms are incredibly varied. You can see vision changes, numbness or tingling, muscle weakness, balance problems, coordination issues, profound fatigue. It really depends on which nerves are affected.

Speaker 2: 10:12

How is MS diagnosed then?

Speaker 3: 10:25

of spinal fluid which is gathered via spinal tap, and seeing characteristic lesions or areas of damage on MRI scans of the brain and spinal cord. Clinical symptoms are also key, of course.

Speaker 2: 10:31

Wow, that's a really powerful overview. It shows just how diverse these conditions are, yet they all circle back to that central theme the immune system misfiring. So if we know what they are and how they can show up, the million-dollar question remains why, why? Why did these conditions happen in the first place? It sounds like it's rarely one simple thing, right? Yeah, it's more of a complex interplay.

Speaker 3: 10:53

It is absolutely, and that's really where the deep dive into prevention, or at least management, truly begins. Autoimmune diseases don't usually have a single cause. They tend to develop through this intricate dance between genetics, environmental exposures, lifestyle factors and how well our immune system is regulated.

Speaker 2: 11:11

A perfect storm scenario.

Speaker 3: 11:13

Pretty much, yeah, a confluence of factors. Let's start with genetic susceptibility. We know certain gene variants significantly increase a person's risk.

Speaker 2: 11:23

Like specific genes.

Speaker 3: 11:24

Yeah, we're talking about variations in genes with names like HLADR, PTPM22, and CTLA4. These aren't just random letters. They're involved in how your immune cells learn to recognize self versus non-self. So if you have these variants, if you have certain variants, it's like the dimmer switch for immune tolerance has turned down a bit, making your system more prone to making mistakes when it gets triggered, and this is crucial. Having these genes doesn't guarantee you'll get the disease.

Speaker 2: 11:52

Right, it's susceptibility, not destiny.

Speaker 3: 11:54

Exactly, a family history increases risk, but it's not the whole story by any means.

Speaker 2: 11:59

Okay, so genes load the gun. What pulls the trigger? Environment.

Speaker 3: 12:05

That's a common way to think about it. Environmental triggers play a huge role. Infections, for example viral or bacterial, can sometimes confuse the immune system. There's this phenomenon called molecular mimicry.

Speaker 2: 12:16

Molecular mimicry Sounds complex.

Speaker 3: 12:18

It just means that proteins on the surface of the invading microbe look really similar structurally to some of your own body's protein.

Speaker 2: 12:25

Ah, so the immune system attacks the microbe.

Speaker 3: 12:28

And then accidentally starts attacking your own tissues because they look alike. It's like a case of mistaken identity leading to friendly fire.

Speaker 2: 12:35

Okay, what else besides infections?

Speaker 3: 12:38

Exposure to environmental pollutants, heavy metals, even things like smoking. These can trigger immune dysregulation by increasing oxidative stress and just generally burdening the immune system.

Speaker 2: 12:52

You mentioned gut health earlier. That seems to come up a lot.

Speaker 3: 12:54

It's a massive piece of the puzzle Gut health and intestinal permeability. Sometimes people call it leaky gut. Consider this Up to 70% of your entire immune system is located in or around your gut 70% Wow. Yeah, it's a critical control tower for immune tolerance when there are disruptions in your gut microbiome, that balance of good and bad bacteria known as dysbiosis. And if the gut lining becomes more permeable or leaky, it can allow undigested food particles, bacterial fragments, these things called antigens, to slip into your bloodstream where they don't belong.

Speaker 2: 13:28

And the immune system reacts.

Speaker 3: 13:29

Exactly. It sees these things as foreign invaders and mounts an attack leading to chronic immune activation. There's really clear research linking dysbiosis and leaky gut to conditions like celiac, ra, ms. Gut health is central.

Speaker 2: 13:45

Okay, gut health is huge. What about general inflammation?

Speaker 3: 13:49

Right. Chronic inflammation itself is another key factor. Persistent low-grade inflammation basically keeps the immune system on high alert all the time.

Speaker 2: 13:56

Like it's constantly simmering.

Speaker 3: 13:58

Precisely, and that overstimulation significantly increases the risk of it eventually making a mistake and turning on itself developing autoimmunity. We can actually measure some of these inflammatory messengers in the blood markers like HSCRP, il-6, and TNF-alpha.

Speaker 2: 14:13

So those tests can be early warning signs.

Speaker 3: 14:15

They can indicate underlying immune activation. Yeah, Even before someone has clear symptoms, high levels of these markers might suggest something's brewing.

Speaker 2: 14:23

Interesting. And finally, what about diet Sugar, specifically?

Speaker 3: 14:27

Ah yes, diet, sugar and insulin resistance. This is a really important connection. Modern diets, often high in refined carbs and added sugars, contribute to something called hyperinsulinemia.

Speaker 2: 14:39

Meaning too much insulin.

Speaker 3: 14:40

Consistently high levels of insulin. Yeah, and this metabolic imbalance doesn't just affect weight. It drives systemic inflammation, increases oxidative stress and can really worsen autoimmune flare-ups. It puts extra pressure on the immune system.

Speaker 2: 14:53

So managing blood sugar is important for immune health too. Absolutely.

Speaker 3: 14:56

Monitoring markers like fasting insulin, HbA1c, which shows average blood sugar over months, and HOMA-IR, a measure of insulin resistance, gives us vital insights into how metabolism might be contributing to autoimmune risk. It directly links our diet to our immune function.

Speaker 2: 15:12

That's a truly intricate web Genes, infections, toxins, gut health, inflammation, diet so many potential factors. Given this incredible complexity and the fact that so many early symptoms are just general, you know, like fatigue or aches, how does someone even begin to tell the difference between everyday tiredness and something potentially more serious? What are those commonly missed early signs?

Speaker 3: 15:39

You've really hit on a crucial point there. These initial signals are often subtle, they're easily dismissed as oh I'm just stressed, or I didn't sleep well, or I'm getting older.

Speaker 2: 15:48

Right, we all do that.

Speaker 3: 15:49

We do. But certain patterns tend to emerge as general early warning signs across many different autoimmune conditions. Persistent fatigue, the kind that doesn't get better with rest, that's a big one.

Speaker 2: 16:01

Okay, persistent fatigue.

Speaker 3: 16:02

Unexplained muscle aches or joint pain that just sort of lingers, low grade fevers or just feeling generally run down for weeks on end, that brain fog we mentioned, difficulty concentrating, digestive changes, persistent bloating, maybe diarrhea, constipation, abdominal pain that doesn't have a clear cause, skin rashes that pop up or suddenly becoming really sensitive to sunlight.

Speaker 2: 16:25

So it's the persistence and having multiple symptoms.

Speaker 3: 16:27

Exactly. The key here is persistence and multiplicity. If you're experiencing several of these things consistently for more than, say, a few weeks, it's definitely worth exploring further. Don't just ignore it.

Speaker 2: 16:39

Okay, and are there more specific clues, depending on the organ involved?

Speaker 3: 16:44

Yes, beyond those general signs there can be more organ-specific clues For thyroid disorders like Hashimoto's. You might notice those changes in weight we talked about, or temperature intolerance, feeling really cold when others are comfortable or vice versa. Maybe noticeable mood swings With celiac disease. Maybe the chronic bloating is the main thing, but perhaps it's also unexplained anemia or nutrient deficiencies showing up on routine blood work or even certain types of skin rashes. Ok For lupus. Besides the potential butterfly rash, look for persistent joint inflammation, maybe swelling in the legs which could indicate kidney involvement. For type 1 diabetes, that classic trio excessive thirst, frequent urination and unexplained weight loss is usually pretty hard to miss once it starts.

Speaker 2: 17:29

So, if these subtle signals, or maybe even more specific ones, are persisting, when should you really push for a deeper look with your doctor? What are the key tests to discuss?

Speaker 3: 17:41

This is critical advice. If you're experiencing multiple unexplained symptoms that hang around for more than a few weeks, or if you have a known family history of autoimmune disease, that's your signal. That's the time to initiate an early lab evaluation.

Speaker 2: 17:55

Don't wait until it's really bad.

Speaker 3: 17:57

Please don't wait. Early detection is everything. Key tests to discuss with your doctor would definitely include a comprehensive ANA panel. That's an excellent initial screen for many systemic autoimmune conditions.

Speaker 2: 18:08

ANA panel okay.

Speaker 3: 18:09

You'd also want to check CRP and ESR. These are general inflammatory markers. High levels tell you there's significant inflammation happening somewhere in the body.

Speaker 2: 18:18

CRP and ESR got it.

Speaker 3: 18:20

Then, depending on your specific symptoms and family history, your doctor might order specific antibody tests like the TPO-AB for Hashimoto's we mentioned, or anti-CCP for RA or the TTG-IGA for celiac.

Speaker 2: 18:32

Tailored to the suspicion.

Speaker 3: 18:34

Exactly. And don't forget the metabolic panels Checking things like fasting insulin, HbA1c, maybe even lipid markers. These give vital insights into those metabolic contributors, like insulin resistance, that can fuel autoimmunity. It helps paint a more complete picture.

Speaker 2: 18:51

Okay, this is all incredibly helpful for understanding and detection, but this deep dive isn't just about getting a diagnosis right. It's really about empowerment, and while medical treatment is often necessary absolutely critical for many of these conditions medical treatment is often necessary absolutely critical for many of these conditions. The good news, as I understand it, is there are some really powerful, evidence-based lifestyle strategies that can genuinely complement medical therapy things people can do.

Speaker 3: 19:16

That's a vital point. These aren't just, you know, nice ideas. They are evidence-based approaches that can meaningfully impact well-being and potentially even disease activity. It's about managing the terrain, if you will.

Speaker 2: 19:26

Managing the terrain. I like that. So where do we start?

Speaker 3: 19:28

Nutrition Nutrition is foundational Anti-inflammatory nutrition. The focus here is really on whole unprocessed foods, things rich in antioxidants, healthy fats.

Speaker 2: 19:38

Like what specifically?

Speaker 3: 19:39

Think omega-3 rich foods wild salmon, walnuts, chia seeds, flax seeds. These are potent anti-inflammatory agents. Pair those with lean proteins to help keep blood sugar stable.

Speaker 2: 19:51

And what should people limit or avoid?

Speaker 3: 19:53

It's crucial to limit foods known to drive inflammation and immune activation. That means cutting back significantly on processed foods, refined sugars, excessive omega-6 seed oils like soybean corn oil and those highly processed carbohydrates.

Speaker 2: 20:09

They basically fuel the fire. Okay, makes sense. What about the insulin connection we talked about?

Speaker 3: 20:12

Right. Improving insulin sensitivity is key, since we know high insulin levels can worsen immune dysregulation and make flares more severe. Managing your blood sugar is directly tied to managing your immune system. How do you do that? Strategies include adopting low-glycemic diets, eating in a way that doesn't cause big blood sugar spikes, regularly monitoring those markers. We mentioned fasting insulin. Hmair, hba1c can track progress, and incorporating both resistance training like lifting weights and aerobic exercise is fantastic for enhancing your body's metabolic flexibility and how well it uses insulin.

Speaker 2: 20:47

Exercise helps insulin work better. Got it and back to the gut.

Speaker 3: 20:51

Always back to the gut. Supporting gut health is paramount given its role as that immune control tower. A healthy gut microbiome supports immune tolerance, which can significantly reduce autoimmunity risk or severity.

Speaker 2: 21:04

So probiotics, yes, significantly reduce autoimmunity risk or severity.

Speaker 3: 21:05

So probiotics, yes, increasing intake of probiotic-rich foods like plain yogurt, kefir, sauerkraut, kimchi, things with live beneficial bacteria. But just as important is feeding those good bugs with prebiotic fibers.

Speaker 2: 21:18

Prebiotics. What are those?

Speaker 3: 21:20

They're types of fiber found in foods like garlic, onions, asparagus, leeks, slightly unripe bananas. They act as food for your beneficial gut microbes.

Speaker 2: 21:28

Eat the good guys. Okay, what about stress? Does that really impact autoimmunity?

Speaker 3: 21:33

Hugely. Stress and sleep management are critical. Chronic stress isn't just in your head. It physically elevates cortisol and pro-inflammatory cytokines. These chemicals can directly worsen autoimmune flare-ups and mess with immune regulation.

Speaker 2: 21:46

So managing stress isn't just nice to have.

Speaker 3: 21:49

It's essential. Evidence-based practices include things like mindfulness, meditation, deep breathing exercises, establishing consistent sleep schedules aiming for seven to nine hours of quality rest, and incorporating gentle movement like yoga or tai chi to help calm the nervous system.

Speaker 2: 22:06

Sleep is huge. Okay, and briefly, what about conventional medical treatments?

Speaker 3: 22:15

Absolutely crucial for many people. Medical therapies shouldn't be overlooked. These often involve immunomodulators or biologics, which are sophisticated drugs designed to reduce specific aspects of immune system overactivity or block certain inflammatory pathways.

Speaker 2: 22:26

More targeted approaches.

Speaker 3: 22:27

Yes, sometimes steroids like prednisone are used short term during severe flares to quickly get acute inflammation under control, and increasingly we're seeing highly targeted therapies, precision medicines that are customized to attack specific pathways involved in a particular autoimmune disease. It's becoming much more personalized.

Speaker 2: 22:45

So it's really about combining approaches, lifestyle and medical.

Speaker 3: 22:48

Ideally yes. For optimal management, it's often about integrating these foundational lifestyle strategies with appropriate medical care tailored to the individual's specific condition and needs. So if we kind of connect all this back to the bigger picture, what we've really seen today is that autoimmune diseases are incredibly complex. They're multifactorial conditions.

Speaker 2: 23:09

Right, not simple.

Speaker 3: 23:11

Not simple at all. They often develop silently, maybe for years, long before clear symptoms appear. But by understanding their potential triggers the genetics, the environment, the gut health, the inflammation, by recognizing those subtle early warning signs and by embracing a proactive approach, we really empower ourselves. We know the immune system mistakenly attacks healthy tissues, leading to that chronic inflammation. We know factors like gut health, insulin resistance, genetics and environmental exposures play these significant interconnected roles.

Speaker 2: 23:42

And testing helps catch it early.

Speaker 3: 23:44

Crucially, lab testing is a vital tool to detect this immune dysregulation early, often before irreversible damage happens. And finally, those powerful lifestyle strategies anti-inflammatory nutrition, supporting your gut, managing stress, getting good sleep, moving your body strong. They aren't just complementary, they're truly foundational for supporting overall health and managing these conditions, alongside necessary medical treatments.

Speaker 2: 24:11

This deep dive really does show us that intricate, complex dance happening inside our bodies, doesn't it? And how interconnected everything is our gut, our genes, our environment, our stress levels, our diet it's all connected.

Speaker 2: 24:21

It really is which raises, I think, an important question for you, our listener. Given how deeply intertwined all these systems are. How might rethinking our entire approach to overall wellness, focusing proactively on gut health, managing stress, eating well, moving regularly, how might that be the most powerful step any of us can take in supporting our immune health Whether or not autoimmunity is currently a specific concern for us something to think about?

Speaker 1: 24:52

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